This is the conference we should be aiming for. That’s what I’ve been saying through this thread and others. F$ck the MW. They didn’t want us in 98 they didn’t want us last year when they considered adding us and RICE and they ain’t going to want us in 2020 when their tv money worsens.
Right, the biggest let down for UTEP has been the lack of performance on the field, especially in football. Conferences won't look at any school whose football team is 0-12. we have to establish our brand by winning and winning big, not just existing in D-1. We're lucky to be in CUSA given our recent athletic successes, Winston Dimel and the track team not withstanding.
We don’t have to worry about the new Arizona and Myrtle Beach bowl since they will feature G5 teams.
Anyway you wanna spin it you’ll still be wrong. Sure it will be a bowl in Las Vegas but it won’t be the Las Vegas Bowl. Or are we now going to call the HOD bowl the Cotton Bowl? It’s in Dallas and it’s played at Cotton Bowl Stadium. Big difference.
I really don't understand what point you are trying to make? As long as the bowl pits the MWC champion against a similar opponent and the payout is on par, they can call it the Shovelman bowl and no one will care.
That’s the thing the opponent will probably not be a P5 anymore and the payout will be lower. Any new G5 vs G5 bowl will not come with a 1.4 million payout.
C-USA will not pass the MWC. C-USA is basically Sin Belt 2.0 there is no difference between C-Usa and the Sun Belt. Whatever bowl The MWC plays in Vegas will be better than anything C-USA has. The local government in Vegas takes care of UNLV. They got a great deal to play in the new stadium. We already turned the MWC down twice, those decisions has been the worst in UTEP history. We better not get comfortable in C-USA because I guarantee you UNT and UTSA will do everything they can to get to the MWC.
Well in that case the MW is basically the Mountian WAC Conference. The truth is and it’s all backed up by stats is that there is not much difference from any of the G5 conferences as far as the level of play. The AAC does stand out from the rest of us. They have a much better tv deal, bowl line ups, and quality of teams. That’s the problem with UTEP and the fan base. We always want to settle for second place instead of aiming to be the best we can. Our ambitions should be to get into the AAC.
First of all the Athletic Directors are discussing a thousand things and that is only one of them. Secondly the fact that you dismiss anything by Mark Anderson (the main writer of MWC for the Las Vegas Review Journal) because he doesn't have followers on twitter tells me that you are trying to cherry pick anything that predicts a great demise of the MW. Your stories are just as good as any of the other ones and you do not know what is going to happen. It is all based on conjecture but I would believe a writer that lives in Vegas and focuses on the MW more than I would any other.
I’m not dismissing anything Anderson says it’s a jab at shovelman since he in the past has dismissed any praise for Terry because the person saying it had less than 5k followers. His tweet further gives evidence that the MW is preparing to lose the Las Vegas Bowl as McMurphy stated weeks earlier. The creation of a second Bow in Las Vegas is an indication of that. As Anderson says “better chance if there is a second game” so he’s also aware that the MW is on the chopping block for the Las Vegas Bowl.
Again shovelman all I did was post a link to the McMurphy article where his sources say the Las Vegas Bowl is dropping them. Same thing you did with the Anderson tweet.
Unfortunately LaserCoog's post shows that about 45 million more viewers watched MW football than CUSA. I really don't see us as close to that league nor the AAC. If we ever get invited to the AAC it will be due to some of their schools joining other conferences and it will be CUSA all over again. It will be a shell of itself.
In a three year span I count 27 million more for the MW. It’s still an advantage for them but when you compare those MW numbers to the AAC they’re a lot closer to CUSA than they are to the American. A lot of variables involved due to OOC P5 scheduling and bowl matchups. When comparing conference controlled games it’s only 4 million more.
Finishing 3rd in CUSA West in football is not out of the realm of possibility. With Metz/Locksley and a solid rb by committee that includes Dimel's son and throw in a real post modern FBS passing game and the sky is the limit.
Finishing 3rd in CUSA West in football is not out of the realm of possibility. With Metz/Locksley and a solid rb by committee that includes Dimel's son and throw in a real post modern FBS passing game and the sky is the limit.
