If UTEP wants to replace the 3 cancelled games....
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IMO people with expensive tastes require a high salary. I strive to reach the 24% tax bracket.
Obviously if you want a $50k car and $500,000 car you need more money.
But it's moronic to say that $80k "doesn't go far" in most cities.
My goals aren't money driven. I spend wisely and that's how my money goes far.
SFA doesn’t want to play football in the Spring.
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What if that’s the lifestyle someone wants to live? Wouldn’t it be moronic to say you can afford to provide a 500k home and a new suv on a 35k salary?
Who said you can afford a $500k home and a new SUV on a $35k salary?
If you don't live out of your means and make $80k, you can buy a good house, car, and have money leftover in MOST CITIES.
No one can afford that lifestyle on 35k. Some people want that lifestyle. They want a 500k home and 50k car. To them it’s not moronic to say 80k doesn’t take you very far in a major city.
Yes I know you can live a nice apartment for 1000 a month and eat $7 a week of food. Nice for you.
Do I think it’s a moronic lifestyle? Who give a f*ck. It’s what makes you happy.
LOL We're talking about the average person. The VAST MAJORITY of people don't drive $50k cars or live in $500k houses.
I didn't say living that life is moronic. If you can afford that lifestyle, then do it.
I said it's moronic to say $80k "won't go far" in most cities.
The median income for a family in Austin is 96k. It’s not a bubble. That’s how much it cost to raise a family in a major city like Austin. If you want a decent lifestyle for your family of course.
We are talking about individuals, not families.
Also, the median household income in Austin is $64,462.
The per capita income is $40,391.
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/austincitytexas
Where did you get the $96k figure?
So I'm confused. Is @Minerforlife saying $80k is low for household income (2 people working) or individual income?
It seems like we are debating different things.
Either way, the median household income in Austin is less than $80k, so he's wrong either way.
It seems like we are debating different things.
Either way, the median household income in Austin is less than $80k, so he's wrong either way.
Maybe he meant average income. Average can be skewed higher than the median value due to the uber-rich, which is why median is a better measure for a typical family. (I don't think it would skew that much, though.)
https://www.bestplaces.net/economy/city/texas/austin
Here it states the average income in Austin is $32,672 (double that and that is close to the median income of a household).
My bad I read the wrong charts.
https://www.austinchamber.com/economic-development/austin-profile/population/income
IMO in your bubble world you can’t understand how for a family with kids it could be difficult to have a good lifestyle with an 80k salary in a major city.
Again, are we talking about individual income or household income?
Is 80k based on 1 person or 2 people working?
Either way, I already proved that in Austin the median household income is $64,462 (a lot less than $80k).
We’re talking total income. Based on however many people are working.
Great job on proving the house hold income is 64k. Do you want a cookie?
Now prove that’s a comfortable lifestyle for a family with kids. I’ve lived it and it’s a struggle.
He only talks about single person income, single game tickets, etc. Thats all he knows. He pretends he doesn't know that most here have family, kids, more than one car, a bigger house and many more responsibilities than a single person usually has.
AGAIN, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUALS. A FAMILY IS A CHOICE.
YOU are the person talking about families. You are trying to debate something else.
I said that it's moronic to say that making $80k is low. Meaning ONE INCOME.
I don't need a cookie. I just don't like seeing misinformation.
My proof is all my friends and family live in cities and do just fine making less than $80k. Some have kids and some don't.
You just live out of your means and give money away to friends. This is why you struggle.
And your point is? That is YOUR CHOICE to have those responsibilities. Just like it's MY CHOICE to travel, have hobbies, etc.
Everybody has a family. If you are married without kids you are still a family as well.
And your point is that some people CHOOSE to have a family?
When I list my expenses I give my basic expenses. Everything else is EXTRA. Just like expenses for children are EXTRA.
No dude you’re talking about individuals. The rest of us are married and most of us have kids. We can’t relate....
So @Minerforlife was saying $80k is low for 2 people working?
I was talking about individual income the whole time. Nobody was talking about OPTIONAL expenses (children). Just like I wasn't talking about my OPTIONAL expenses (travel, hobbies, etc.)
Do you want a cookie for having those OPTIONAL expenses and responsibilities?
Yes, but he never responded.
I never mentioned anybody about families. I wasn't talking about OPTIONAL EXPENSES.
My original comment was that it's moronic that he said that an $80k salary is low (one person's income).
Optional expenses: travel, hobby and kids.
Now I understand
No wait. What if my hobby is traveling with my kids? I know I know. Still optional.
Now I understand
No wait. What if my hobby is traveling with my kids? I know I know. Still optional.
Serious question? Do you ever want to get married or have kids? Have you tried?
I am glad you understand.
I don't consider food, clothes, and shelter optional.
Traveling hobbies, and kids are optional expenses. They are CHOICES that you make.
I didn't assume. If somebody says an $80k salary is low that means one person making $80k.
Childfree by choice.
I may get married in the future. Who knows? I would be happy either way.
